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Denyle
04-29-2008, 11:11 PM
While I'm waiting for a few pieces to complete my rack, I thought I'd post this.
A while back, I added some Jensen transformers to a pair of CX-1 compressors that weren't getting used. Now they play nice with everything else in the lunchbox.
http://www.denyleguitars.com/images/cx1s
what kinda character do these babies have? lovin those guts :)
Denyle
05-01-2008, 12:54 PM
They go from fairly transparent at modest settings to gritty and trashy at extremes. I like them on edrums to add a bit of hair. The manual has suggested settings to emulate classics like the LA-2A but I think that might be a stretch.
pan60
05-01-2008, 03:11 PM
While I'm waiting for a few pieces to complete my rack, I thought I'd post this.
A while back, I added some Jensen transformers to a pair of CX-1 compressors that weren't getting used. Now they play nice with everything else in the lunchbox.
http://www.denyleguitars.com/images/cx1s
i have been jonesing for at least one of these for some time :D
buts i can not seem to find the finances to keep up with the new stuff i want, so i always seem to have to pass on these when they come up.
was adding the tranny a major pain?
Denyle
05-01-2008, 04:11 PM
was adding the tranny a major pain?
It wasn't bad at all. It requires 2 or 3 component changes and a few 1/4 & 1/8" nylon spacers. And a $10 desoldering tool from Radio Shack to make life easier. One of these days, I'd like to try better op amps in the signal path.
LunchBoxHero
05-01-2008, 09:19 PM
Now they play nice with everything else in the lunchbox.
Denyle, what were you experiencing before installing the jensens?
and did it improve the sound character? My (transformerless) CX-1's are now feeling very jealous! :(
what's the model number of what you installed? oddly enough, I think I have a set of those transformers that I pulled from an old broadcast console we scrapped years ago. I recognize them. (Finding them in studio storage is quite another matter :eek:)
pan60
05-01-2008, 10:07 PM
It wasn't bad at all. It requires 2 or 3 component changes and a few 1/4 & 1/8" nylon spacers. And a $10 desoldering tool from Radio Shack to make life easier. One of these days, I'd like to try better op amps in the signal path.
you should give us all a descriptive lesson as to what you re doing their?
at least i would like to know. :D
Denyle
05-01-2008, 10:18 PM
The transformers are Jensen JT-123-A, -ALCF is the current replacement. I didn't notice any difference in sound but Jensen's are all about transparency. The spec sheet says the output is increased to +30dbm with the transformers. I suppose you could go with a steel core if you want more color.
I had an issue with an OSA pre where the led's would all light up and another pre (forget which) would glow dimly. It got worse with both CX-1 in the rack and went away when they were pulled. Decoupling the output solved the problem.
Denyle
05-01-2008, 10:57 PM
Pan60, Here's what I did.
R114-change to 470K.
C110-change to 0.33uf. I used a tant but schematic says "S" (stacked film).
FB201-? fb201=R236=150R for NON-transformer version. I believe it's just a ferrite bead. I can't tell from the CX-1 schematic how it's incorporated but on the EQ2, it shows FB-2 in series with a 10R resistor, followed by the high side of the xformer. Jensen still sells the FB-2. Presumably, it's a 2 hole ferrite core and I'm not sure if you use one or both.
Now, match up the wiring of your transformer to this:
http://www.denyleguitars.com/images/cx1_output
Mounting the transformer (Jensen style):
Remove the upper standoff and press in stud. Tip: unscrew the standoff almost all the way then give it a tap to pop out the stud.
Use 1/4" spacers b/t the bottom pcb and xformer. Use a 1/8" spacer b/t the xformer and edge connector pcb. Use 4-40x1.25" screws to bolt it all together.
LunchBoxHero
04-30-2009, 11:21 PM
well I finally unearthed my jensen transformers that I wonder can be used in my Aphex Cx-1's...:confused:
What do you think?
They are steel core (hence the "s") i believe.
Denyle
05-01-2009, 12:18 AM
well I finally unearthed my jensen transformers that I wonder can be used in my Aphex Cx-1's...:confused:
What do you think?
They are steel core (hence the "s") i believe.
IIRC, The 123-S is physically smaller than the 123-A. Better check with Jensen for the specs, specifically the mounting hole spacing. Besides, the A is a 3:1 and the S is a 1:1.
pan60
05-01-2009, 02:12 AM
i seen these on ebay?
http://cgi.ebay.com/Jensen-JT-123-A-Output-transformers-Dual-pri-sec_W0QQitemZ290309715033QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_Def aultDomain_0?hash=item290309715033
maybe they will help?
Denyle
05-01-2009, 02:50 AM
i seen these on ebay?
http://cgi.ebay.com/Jensen-JT-123-A-Output-transformers-Dual-pri-sec_W0QQitemZ290309715033QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_Def aultDomain_0?hash=item290309715033
maybe they will help?
Yup, that's who I bought mine from too.
BTW, I updated my previous post 9.
LunchBoxHero
05-01-2009, 03:02 PM
thanks for the eBay lead (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290309715033) on the "A". Someday I will find something to do with my "S". :cool:
For reference:
Jt-123-s Specs
http://www.jensen-transformers.com/datashts/123slcf.pdf
Jt-123-a Specs
http://www.jensen-transformers.com/datashts/123alcf3.pdf
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