new material for the database

[futur2]

ok, maybe i posted this in the wrong forum a couple of days before. so here is my humble bump via a new thread... i really like to see the database complete. :D

http://www.altamodaaudio.com/am_10.html

http://www.altamodaaudio.com/am_20.html

http://www.realios.com/

http://www.jlmaudio.com/NV500.htm

http://vintageking.com/Tree-Audio-500-Meter-Module

radial has announced this 2 new modules
http://aes.harmony-central.com/125AES/Content/RadialEngineering/PR/Radial-Engineering-New-Products-at-AES-2008.html
scroll down to
Radial Launches LB Series?Lunchbox modules.

and there's a variant of the burl now http://www.gearslutz.com/board/new-product-alert/331765-new-burl-audio-b2-dac-b1-d-dark-mic-pre-booth-1526-a.html

you could also include the API 550a saul walker edition and the 550m mastering version!?

also shiny box seems to have new toys. look here, 3rd pic first row:
http://www.gearslutz.com/board/3560089-post145.html

[LunchBoxHero]

Thanks Futur2! Good sleuthing. A couple of those links aren't working so maybe shoot me a pm which units those were meant to reference. edit: I corrected them for you as they worked in the other thread...

Indeed it is not easy to stay on top of it, but we will get these up there in the next day or so. It's a little tough around trade show time as a bunch of new stuff hits at once, which in the end, is good for us lunchbox heros, and bad for those of us with limited time to update databases!:D

I am giving priority right now to new/planned modules. There is a ton of legacy stuff that is not in the database that I am still researching and will make it in eventually.

note : If you don't mind I am going to delete the duplicate threads in "the database status" thread. I meant to lock that thread, but forgot.

[futur2]

Thanks Futur2! Good sleuthing. A couple of those links aren't working so maybe shoot me a pm which units those were meant to reference. edit: I corrected them for you as they worked in the other thread...

Indeed it is not easy to stay on top of it, but we will get these up there in the next day or so. It's a little tough around trade show time as a bunch of new stuff hits at once, which in the end, is good for us lunchbox heros, and bad for those of us with limited time to update databases!:D

I am giving priority right now to new/planned modules. There is a ton of legacy stuff that is not in the database that I am still researching and will make it in eventually.

note : If you don't mind I am going to delete the duplicate threads in "the database status" thread. I meant to lock that thread, but forgot.

hey james,

sure delete it! and thanks for your efforts.

it's also though times for those who can't afford all those great new gear ;)

cheers
istvan

[LunchBoxHero]

cool :) those updates should be up by tomorrow eve.

[futur2]

I am giving priority right now to new/planned modules. There is a ton of legacy stuff that is not in the database that I am still researching and will make it in eventually.

not sure if you (amongst others) mean the 550m but those are still made and sold on request by api. there's also a 550d mastering module, but i'm not completely sure if they still make it or sell it?

[LunchBoxHero]

Yes I know about the 550m, I was just noting that there are a few legacy things up there, but at some point I would like to get all the legacy stuff up there.

I know about the 550m, but there is nothing on the API website. Also, from what I understand, the 550A is actually discontinued, and the only 550 "A" type eq's still offered are the 550PM (no hand-wired resistor pack switches) and the 550 Saul Walker edition (same as last reissue of 550A but with a signed faceplate).

Sadly, the API website is not entirely up to date as far as I can tell.

[futur2]

Sadly, API is very unresponsive in seeking more information and there website is not entirely up to date as far as I can tell.

you always hear this complain concerning unresponsiveness from manufacturers trying to get info about or become a member of the VPR alliance - wonder if this club still exists.

i remember when i bought my first lunchbox from vintageking it was impossible for them to find out from API if the power supplies of the lunchboxes had been beefed up or not :rolleyes:

[futur2]

i give this a friendly bump

[LunchBoxHero]

hi futur2, thanks for the bump... and your patience! we're on it later today... studio relocate/construction been keeping us a bit busy! :)

[LunchBoxHero]

API 550a saul walker edition and the 550m mastering version!

these will be added as info is made available from API

[futur2]

http://www.davelectronics.com/bg501.htm

[pan60]

you always hear this complain concerning unresponsiveness from manufacturers trying to get info about or become a member of the VPR alliance - wonder if this club still exists.

i remember when i bought my first lunchbox from vintageking it was impossible for them to find out from API if the power supplies of the lunchboxes had been beefed up or not :rolleyes:

i do know they are slow to respond, the VPR Alliance is for every one that wants to build with in the specks.
the DIY get left out because their is no way to determine what Joe the Plumber :D has put together : )~

i spoke with Larry and he said they get requests for info but few follow through with sending a unit for testing.
plus i do know they are slow at time they are swamp just taking care of their own business.
i know their have been a few more additions to the list the last time i looked.
http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/8/8_2_109.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=_undefined)

[futur2]

i do know they are slow to respond, the VPR Alliance is for every one that wants to build with in the specks.
the DIY get left out because their is no way to determine what Joe the Plumber :D has put together : )~

i spoke with Larry and he said they get requests for info but few follow through with sending a unit for testing.
plus i do know they are slow at time they are swamp just taking care of their own business.
i know their have been a few more additions to the list the last time i looked.
http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/8/8_2_109.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=_undefined)

just looked at the vpr list, a new 500 baby again Danfield MX20 Mic Preamp
huhu database will explode :D

[pan60]

i seen that!
very cool: )~
:D:D:D

[LunchBoxHero]

just looked at the vpr list, a new 500 baby again Danfield MX20 Mic Preamp
huhu database will explode :D

Hi does anyone have more info on this Danfield Mic Pre (http://www.danfield-audio.com/main_products/audio_prod_micpre1.html)? I want to add it to the database but the one on the website appears to not be 500 series? Wrong power requirements etc.

Thanks.

[futur2]

Hi does anyone have more info on this Danfield Mic Pre (http://www.danfield-audio.com/main_products/audio_prod_micpre1.html)? I want to add it to the database but the one on the website appears to not be 500 series? Wrong power requirements etc.

Thanks.

hi there!

danfield indeed doesn't seem to be 500 series? my personal guess is there should be a 500 series version at some point but how can it be approved then?? i've sent them an email for inquiry.

there are some holes in the database. would be nice to have it complete, it's such an incredible resource!

AVAILABLE (i guess)

AML (Carnhill)
http://www.audiomaintenance.com/acatalog/aml_electronic_products.html

BoZo Electronics
http://www.bozoel.com/content/view/88/92/lang,en/

Inward Connections
http://vintageking.com/Shop-New-Categories/New-Dynamics-Compressor-Limiter-500-Series/Inward-Connections-VC500
http://vintageking.com/Shop-New-Categories/Equalizers-500-Series/Inward-Connections-EQP2

Forssell
http://forsselltech.com/products/smp500preamp.html

JMK
http://www.gearslutz.com/board/new-product-alert/382337-jm-120-di-pre-amp-500-series-module.html
he also has a compressor mentioned here http://www.gearslutz.com/board/so-much-gear-so-little-time/187137-new-api-500-series-compressor-2.html but i don't think it's available yet?

Safe Sound Audio
http://www.safesoundaudio.co.uk/500.html

Vintage Design
http://www.vintagedesign.se/2008/010401.htm

COMING (some with ? here and there)

JLM
(3 compressors, info here http://www.gearslutz.com/board/so-much-gear-so-little-time/147328-jlm-audio-500-series-modules-7.html)

Helios
(long talked about, very unlucky thread http://www.gearslutz.com/board/high-end/341995-helios-type-69-pre-eq-coming-api-500-format.html)

API
new compressor highly anticipated! also whole gearslutz thread...

BUT i'm sure there is much more!

cheers
istvan

[pan60]

if you want to join the VPR Alliance you cam email me and i will get you the application, as well as the specs you will need.

API is trying to do the VPR Alliance approvals as a service to the 500 format community, and doing so while trying to preform their daily jobs to boot.
so sometimes getting a replay ma take a bit.

as a bit of help to those guys you can get with me and i can help you get things started, with the need information.
in the in API will still have to do the approval or not, i do not work for API in ANY WAY so that is all up to them.

their are some units that will still make list and some will not because they are outside the VPR Alliance specifications.

[futur2]

if you want to join the VPR Alliance you cam email me and i will get you the application, as well as the specs you will need.

API is trying to do the VPR Alliance approvals as a service to the 500 format community, and doing so while trying to preform their daily jobs to boot.
so sometimes getting a replay ma take a bit.

as a bit of help to those guys you can get with me and i can help you get things started, with the need information.
in the in API will still have to do the approval or not, i do not work for API in ANY WAY so that is all up to them.

their are some units that will still make list and some will not because they are outside the VPR Alliance specifications.

not sure if this is directed to me? i have no affiliation with anyone. i was just talking ABOUT danfield and my wild guesses...

[pan60]

it was, :D but it really applies to anyone that wants to apply.
i thought you has said you had inquired.
i get so much stuff in for a Beta test of review in is not a big deal to email someone the needed paperwork.:eek:
helps take a small load off the guys at API not much but a tiny bit i hope.
:D

[futur2]

Hi does anyone have more info on this Danfield Mic Pre (http://www.danfield-audio.com/main_products/audio_prod_micpre1.html)? I want to add it to the database but the one on the website appears to not be 500 series? Wrong power requirements etc.

Thanks.

more info on danfield. gary brzezinski from danfield audio replied to my e-mail. this is what he wrote:

Yes, We are a part of the VPR alliance. The MX20 is a ?lunch box? compatible product. We will be releasing information about this exciting new addition to our product range very soon. The good thing about our design for the API series is that we have kept Danfields original performance specifications found in our proprietary version. It is currently the only transformer-less pre amp in the alliance (I think).
The price of the MX20 VPR is 5200 DKK or 698 EUR.

[pan60]

cool to hear!
:D

[LunchBoxHero]

good news on the Danfield, thanks. it does look they will be keeping the specs while changing the current requirements as the current mx20 states "+/- 22V"

Futur2, thanks as always for continued sleuthing - the db will be brought up to date again in the next day or few...

Maybe I need to start the "LBH Alliance" to honor those keeping me on my toes ?? ;)

[[silent:arts]]

I think these should be in the database too
(I build one VP26 last friday, it is so easy, anybody with a soldering iron can do it)

VP25 (http://classicapi.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=22_47_55_57_65_79) by Jeff Steiger, Classic Audio Products of Illinois

VP26 (http://classicapi.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=22_47_55_56_58_81) by Jeff Steiger, Classic Audio Products of Illinois

[futur2]

Futur2, thanks as always for continued sleuthing - the db will be brought up to date again in the next day or few...

Maybe I need to start the "LBH Alliance" to honor those keeping me on my toes ?? ;)

;) :D

[futur2]

;676']I think these should be in the database too
(I build one VP26 last friday, it is so easy, anybody with a soldering iron can do it)

VP25 (http://classicapi.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=22_47_55_57_65_79) by Jeff Steiger, Classic Audio Products of Illinois

VP26 (http://classicapi.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=22_47_55_56_58_81) by Jeff Steiger, Classic Audio Products of Illinois

if i dare ask, how are they soundwise?!
are they really that easy to built? i can solder cables without a problem but not more so far. also my technical understanding is rather limited :o ...

[futur2]

make it three...

http://www.lazpro.com/fsc.htm

http://www.lazpro.com/mpa.htm

http://fivefishstudios.com/index.php/X-12mk500-Mic-Preamp-Kit.html

[pan60]

FIVEFISH STUDIO kit here to build but have not had a chance to even look at it: (~
i hope to do a article on it from assembly to use, at least the plan.
this will take longer then what i normally do.:eek:

[futur2]

and something new again...

http://www.mercenary.com/empirical-500rack2u.html

[LunchBoxHero]

and something new again...

http://www.mercenary.com/empirical-500rack2u.html

got it. the database update is a couple weeks behind, but we are making some other changes to it...

[diy2]

got it. the database update is a couple weeks behind, but we are making some other changes to it...

James, can you add this too on your next update?

http://fivefishstudios.com/index.php/X-12mk500-Mic-Preamp-Kit.html

Thanks!

[jsteiger]

if i dare ask, how are they soundwise?!They sound like taking the preamp out from my 1976 API console! :D

are they really that easy to built? i can solder cables without a problem but not more so far. also my technical understanding is rather limited :o ...

They are pretty easy to build. I don't know if I would say to tackle one the first time out...but for sure the 2nd time!

FWIW, I contacted Pan60 a few weeks back about doing a review on my preassembled VP26. The first production batch is about ready to ship out for reviews...I am waiting to hear back from him. What up Pan?? Still busy I assume.

Since the DOA is socketed, the pre's will be base priced with no DOA. You will have the option to add a Scott Lieber's SL-2520 or a gar2520 (fully assembled and tested by Gary Barnett) to the unit. Or, if you happen to have a vintage Huntington or Melville laying around, plug and play! :)

Best, Jeff

[pan60]

They sound like taking the preamp out from my 1976 API console! :D

They are pretty easy to build. I don't know if I would say to tackle one the first time out...but for sure the 2nd time!

FWIW, I contacted Pan60 a few weeks back about doing a review on my preassembled VP26. The first production batch is about ready to ship out for reviews...I am waiting to hear back from him. What up Pan?? Still busy I assume.

Since the DOA is socketed, the pre's will be base priced with no DOA. You will have the option to add a Scott Lieber's SL-2520 or a gar2520 (fully assembled and tested by Gary Barnett) to the unit. Or, if you happen to have a vintage Huntington or Melville laying around, plug and play! :)

Best, Jeff

i do not recall?
if i did not reply, it my have got spam blocked?:eek:
p.m. me your email: )~

[LunchBoxHero]

for patience during challenging times for me :(

db (http://lunchboxhero.com/500seriesdb.html) updated, revisions posted here (http://lunchboxhero.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32), let me know if something's missin'!

james

[jsteiger]

for patience during challenging times for me :(

db (http://lunchboxhero.com/500seriesdb.html) updated, will post the revisions later, let me know if something's missin'!

jamesCool!

Thanks James :)

[futur2]

so much new stuff announced!!

[pan60]

i think we will be seeing some cool new stuff at the AES show?
:eek:

[LunchBoxHero]

so much new stuff announced!!


i think we will be seeing some cool new stuff at the AES show?
:eek:

I am not attending AES so....

any help in locating it all would be appreciated and I will work on the db over the weekend.

cheers.
James

[bendymusic]

FYI:

http://www.dane-de-esser.com/

link is NG..

[pan60]

FYI:

http://www.dane-de-esser.com/

link is NG..

i will see if i can get Dane on the phone and see about it.
i believe he recently moved, and made some changes?

[bendymusic]

Also, I noticed in the database that the EM Gold and Silver are not VPR approved?! The other A-Designs pres apparently are, is this a typo? :rolleyes:

&e

[pan60]

Also, I noticed in the database that the EM Gold and Silver are not VPR approved?! The other A-Designs pres apparently are, is this a typo? :rolleyes:

&e

they are not on the VPR Alliance list, but they should be ( i believe they will API is offering us all the VPR Alliance on their dime and as they can ), the only difference in these the EM-GOLD and the EM-SILVER, is the transformers.

[LunchBoxHero]

hi folks, major computer crash here first time getting to site or email in a few days :eek:

i will give a shout out to apple's "migration assitant" which so far appears to have restored most of my settings :D

will check all this stuff and update database with new stuff from AES too. keep those suggestions and corrections coming, thanks for the help fellow heros!

as for VPR approved, I use the official API list (http://www.apiaudio.com/vpr_alliance.html)...

[LunchBoxHero]

i will see if i can get Dane on the phone and see about it.
i believe he recently moved, and made some changes?

I think its all moved to XQP (http://www.xqpaudio.com/) now, Dane's link was working a few weeks ago but I will fix it :) (I thought I did :confused: )

[pan60]

I think its all over at XQP (http://www.xqpaudio.com/) now, Dane's link was working a few weeks ago but I will fix it :) (I thought I did :confused: )

coo!
Dane has a sweet little unit with this!

[LunchBoxHero]

Hi Folks, can you add to this thread all the new recent (pre/post AES) stuff that you think needs to go in the database so I don't miss anything?

Here is what I have as of today that needs to go in:

API 527
Grace M501
Radial - The workhorse and all the new modules
Chameleon Labs Stuff
Daking Mic Pre 500
Great River 32 EQ

Purple/Eisen Lil PEQr
JLM FC500
Inward Connections MPD500
Inward Connections OPT1A
JCF Audio LEVR


Did I miss anything?

Thanks Heroes!

[bendymusic]

True Systems Mic Pre?

[LunchBoxHero]

I knew BendyMusic would save the day :D

Despite all these additions I still feel like there is something missing... maybe it's because I haven't listed out all the Radial Modules.

[futur2]

I knew BendyMusic would save the day :D

Despite all these additions I still feel like there is something missing... maybe it's because I haven't listed out all the Radial Modules.

this?

http://www.gearslutz.com/board/new-product-alert/430214-little-labs-vog.html

http://vintageking.com/Lipinski-L-629-Compressor?sc=13&category=35085

http://vintageking.com/Lipinski-L-609-Mic-Preamplifier

http://vintageking.com/Shadow-Hills-Industries-Dual-Vandergraph

http://www.mercenary.com/fcs-3500spair.html

http://vintageking.com/Helios-Type-69-500?sc=13&category=11988

[LunchBoxHero]

and futur2 keepin us honest :)

yeah that helps, thanks heroes.

man that Shadow hills vandergraph may be one of the coolest looking pieces of gear i have ever seen. straight form frankenstein's laboratory. maybe the fuzzy picture sucked me in.

cheers.
James

[futur2]

vandergraph looks real yummy

oh this one i forgot, probably more...

http://blog.mixonline.com/briefingroom/2009/10/05/prodigy-engineering-develops-the-first-remote-preamp-for-the-api-500-series/

[pan60]

AML 5003D
a set interview / review coming: )`

http://www.audiomaintenance.com/acatalog/AML-16-016_composite_600.jpg :eek::eek::eek:

[bendymusic]

nice looking stuff.. I only wish there were one online resource for all these 500 related products and information.. oh wait, there is! :D

[LunchBoxHero]

nice looking stuff.. I only wish there were one online resource for all these 500 related products and information.. oh wait, there is! :D

and we're workin' on it... :eek:

should have everything in the db by tomorrow

i need an intern. :D

Update 10/20/09 - Still workin' Kids - stay tuned

[futur2]

and we're workin' on it... :eek:

should have everything in the db by tomorrow

i need an intern. :D

Update 10/20/09 - Still workin' Kids - stay tuned

this will be a huge database!

just discovered that the newest fivefish as well the new eisen pre is not in the db yet...

http://fivefishstudios.com/index.php/X-72mk500-with-UK/Carnhill-Trafos.html
http://www.eisenaudio.com/products/eac312v/

[bendymusic]

LittleLabs "VOG"

http://www.littlelabs.com/vog.html

The VOG analog bass resonance tool is the latest creation from Little Labs, and is Little Labs first entry in the popular API 500-Series module format.

The VOG was originally designed to capture the chest resonance of vocalists or voice over artists, enabling them to still have a proximity type effect without having to be so close to the mic, hence the name, VOG, or Voice of God. However, when I heard it on kick drum and bass, it became clear this would be the go to device to make these instruments sound huge.

The VOG lets users sweep a sharp peak resonance from 20 to 300 Hz, while anything below the peak is rolled off at a steep -24dB per octave. This lets users focus on the low end they want, while eliminating low-end mush and unnecessary woofer excursion.

A subharmonic can be the focus, or the fundamental, or upper harmonics. On a kick drum, for example, the overall effect of turning VOGs frequency knob sounds like someone is tightening or loosening the drumhead. In a mix, VOG allows users to place the bass spectrum instruments so they do not interfere or get in the way of each other.

The Vog should be shipping in December 2009 and will have a suggested retail price of $420.

Street $375 @Mercenary

Sweet!

[LunchBoxHero]

Thnx Bendy, this looks like a cool piece.

One of my "secret weapons" is an old MXR distortion II. (The 4-knob AC powered one). The D II has a "resonance" control that works great on dialing up harmonics and sub frequencies on bass when the distortion knob is set to minimum.

It does something that no other box I have found can do.... Sounds like the VOG might fit the bill, and won't be noisy like the distortion II!

The VOG is in the DB already (needs some link updates) and I do have to add a few other things in the coming days, including the SPL stuff.

[pan60]

LittleLabs "VOG"

http://www.littlelabs.com/vog.html

The VOG analog bass resonance tool is the latest creation from Little Labs, and is Little Labs first entry in the popular API 500-Series module format.

Sweet!

sweet!!!!!!

James, you are killing me with all that cool vintage MXR gear you seem to pull out of the wood work: )~

[bendymusic]

http://www.keyclubrecording.com/skibbe/?page_id=7

Whut iz dis?

"Skibbe ELECTRONICS IS PROUD TO PRESENT-the Flickinger 736-4 500 series microphone preamplifier. This module is adapted from Sly Stone?s custom Flickinger MOD-N-32 matrix console (circa 1970). Great care has been taken in creating this module to keep the original tone intact. We use only the highest quality components for a superior build quality in the 500 series format.
This includes:
? Original custom UTRAD/Flickinger input and output transformers.
? Original 535-7 discrete op amp topology
? Hand matched and graded transistors (original T0-105, and TO-106 package styles).
? Tantalum caps
? Onboard voltage conversion to +- 24v
? Machined face plate, engraved, with fluorescent red inlay (glows under black light!)
? 20db pad
? Polarity reverse (both sealed relay switched, no more crackles!)
? Phantom power switch
? Military spec knob in traditional Flickinger style
? Heavy duty pcb and chassis construction Adjustable gain from 5-60db
? Stainless steel grab handle
? Large easy to see indicator lamps for all functions
We have been using Sly?s Flickinger console for over 12 years at the KEYCLUB RECORDING CO. and absolutely love the sound of the mic pre?s. Because of multiple requests for preamps over the years we decided to start producing these modules in the popular 500 series format. Great care has been taken to keep all of the magic Flickinger tone intact, by using original spec. quality components. Because we work in the studio every day, we realized how important it is to have gear that feels as good as it sounds. That is why we focused on creating a module that an engineer would want to reach for every time on a session. The 736-4 looks amazing, feels great to use, and above all else, sounds exactly as good as the original.
? Taking pre-orders now.
? Contact for price and shipping details.
? We accept paypal, checks, and cash!"

[pan60]

pics!
:D

[LunchBoxHero]

http://www.keyclubrecording.com/skibbe/?page_id=7

Whut iz dis?


dis look like something needs be in db... thanks bendy!

hi heros, been very busy at the new studio. some updates are in order :eek:

will be getting to them in the next week.

[pan60]

dis look like something needs be in db... thanks bendy!

hi heros, been very busy at the new studio. some updates are in order :eek:

will be getting to them in the next week.

get to Work James: )~
:D
hope all is well!:D

[Marc Alan Goodman]

You're missing a bunch of the classics!

Aengus EQ - 8 band graphic built for the oh-so-rare Aengus consoles (such as the one that used to be at Indigo Ranch). They have one of the desks for sale at sonic circus actually. Amazingly thick, powerful low end.

B&B EQF-2 - 3 band parametric plus sweepable high and lowpass filters. Kind of a funky design. Came with optional Jensen output tx.

Aphex EQF-2 - exactly the same as the B&B. I believe Aphex bought the company. Total steals if you can find them

APSI 559 - 9 band graphic with switches. Super aggressive upper mids. Awesome on guitars. Supposedly these were later rebranded and sold by API but I've never seen one of those.

APSI 561 - fixed 4 band program eq. I've never actually seen one

APSI 562 - 4 band sweepable parametric. What the Arsenal/JDK eq is based off of.

[bendymusic]

OOoooh haven't heard of most of those.. cool!!!

[LunchBoxHero]

Hey James! New stuff for DB!

XQP 545 Optical Disruptor (http://www.xqpaudio.com/545.html)

Nevish DIY Module?? (http://www.prodigy-pro.com/diy/index.php?topic=36831.0) Anyone know more about this one??

i know... i need to stop talking to myself because what i hear is often more interesting than what i think i said. now get to work! :D

[Tim Farrant]

This may have been mentioned already, if so, please take this as a reminder. ;)

It would be great to add a column in the database specifing current draw of the modules.

Tim.

[pan60]

it would but many choose to ruse the information, i have ask for the information myself.

[mikekeith]

I will...
JM-120 DI pre: 20ma $325.00
JM-115C Compressor: 70ma $585.00
JM-530 Mic pre: 50ma $750.00

[LunchBoxHero]

Thanks Mike/Tim/Pan :-)

I intend to add this info, and consoloidate some other info, in the next version of the database. This had been delayed a bit with my schedule. I have been working to get to version "2.0" but that requires some java script work, [that I kind of suck at :(] and then add this other info in an overall redesign of the database.

Not sure when that will happen, I am hoping prior to AES, and then rely on friends in attendance at AES to spread the word about LBH! :)

Jens at Eisen has also been very helpful with some suggestions on what to include, so trying to sort it all out.

Pan, could you give a a bit more info on how some manufacturers "ruse" this information. That might help me get to what is the best way to publish this spec?

[pan60]

i am not sure what is the best way o do it, it is easy to measure, nut then i fear some manufactories would complain, so i think just asking them and if the refuse just note that on the list.

most are not a issue as they are far below what is allowed and the few that are over are only slightly so i do see much to worry about, but, i have not had the chance naturally to look at everything.

[ferrarofcf]

Now there is a new preamplifier compatible with the series 500 for the datbase
The name of the preamp is H2O,
you can find the information on:
New preamp H2O Sonum (http://www.sonum.it/en/Products.html)